January 10, 2018 at 12:53 pm #717
Trump says he is a genius. What does that make the average UKCer and what IS Trump’s IQ?January 10, 2018 at 12:54 pm #718
The J in Donald J Trump is for jenius.January 10, 2018 at 12:55 pm #719
I’m guessing he’s reasonably intelligent, the problem is with his toddler level of control, and his teeny tiny attention span, coupled with a thin skin and vindictive streak.
Good job nobody reads these, or he’d send the feds round!January 10, 2018 at 12:57 pm #720
Well he is pretty successful in more ways than one. So he defo ain’t stupid. Full on c**t but clearly not stupid. No doubt fails the Mensa entry test but is pattern matching shapes really the barometer of intelligence?January 10, 2018 at 1:00 pm #721
Well he is pretty successful in more ways than one. So he defo ain’t stupid. Full on c**t but clearly not stupid. No doubt fails the Mensa entry test but is pattern matching shapes really the barometer of intelligence?
I’m thinking he WAS savvy, but I really think he could be in the early throw of dementia.
My wife’s an MD and thinks he’s showing signs. You aren’t meant to question the mental competence of the president but Trump was questioning Obamas..
His limited speech, repetitive nature, anger, misuse of terms..
I cannot see him lasting 3 more years.January 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm #722
So long as it is 1 IQ point higher than most voters, he is on a winner.
Billionaire leader of the richest most powerful country in the world. Beautiful wife, Everyone hanging on his every word. Very likely to get re elected, if he wants. Where did it all go wrong for Donald Trump.January 10, 2018 at 1:03 pm #723
I agree. Having had the distress of watching my mother decline and pass away from Vascular Dementia I’d say you’re pretty much spot on, but I think its very early stage. As she declined it was neigh on impossible to get anyone to take our concerns seriously as she maintained a very lucid personality and was always articulate, however her behavior towards people she knew became pretty monstrous – this lasted for over 10 years. This is the part that concerns me about Donald Trump, hopefully those who surround him are at least aware of his decline and will arrange medical intervention before he can do significant damage.
For those who haven’t had to witness dementia first hand, its always worth bearing in mind when dealing with older people who are being horrible, irrational or anti social – they’re probably ill.
January 10, 2018 at 1:05 pm #725
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OP: Hard to say, I always assumed he was unexceptionally bright but had hit on a winning tactic speaking plain like to common folk but it’s ever more apparent that he’s really not. I don’t know how good a social manipulator he is, I’ve no direct or indirect experience using money (and god knows what else) to bully people to have things done but I suspect that gets you a long way. Increasingly I suspect he’s average at best, possibly even a little dim. It’s hard to tell where his evident issues with impulsive bragging and lying (deliberate tactic or personality disorder?) end and a simple lack of comprehension begins.January 10, 2018 at 1:07 pm #726
@sai Having lived through the same experience with my mother I fully endorse your comments. Dementia is cruel, not least to those who have to witness the declining mental health of a loved one. Indeed, I often feel that the consequences are far worse for the immediate family than for the patient as they see the character of their relative change almost out of recognition. In the case of my mother I was often told that she was probably, in effect, oblivious of her condition and as she deteriorated she was withdrawing into her own little world. The sad thing is that many sufferers were, in earlier years, highly intelligent. When my mother started declining I remember having conversations with the GP during which he often displayed the greatest of respect for her intelligence.
I do not profess to have much knowledge of Trump’s earlier years and, joking aside, accept that he may well have an underlying high level of intelligence. However, if he is showing early sign of dementia I think we can only hope for the sake of everybody that plans are in hand for such a situation.January 10, 2018 at 1:08 pm #727
So long as it is 1 point higher than most voters, he is on a winner.
Billionaire leader of the richest most powerful country in the world. Beautiful wife, Everyone hanging on his every word. Very likely to get re elected, if he wants. Where did it all go wrong for Donald Trump.
He’s married to a beautiful woman but they don’t share a bed and she supposedly wants nothing to do with him, they go weeks without seeing each other, even when in the same building.
I think wait and see. How do you know he’s a Billionaire? He’s terrified of Mueller going through his finances because of money he’s loaned. Him and Kushner and up to their eyeballs in this.
He had little chance of winning the election and did whilst losing the popular vote by millions, he’s since done some hugely unpopular things and is taking a war on science and on education. He’s single handedly trying to destroy public education in the US. Public School teachers, scientists and medics make up a large proportion of the vote and will be very motivated to vote.
I’m personally speeding up my citizenship so I can vote in 2020 as I live in a swing state.
I run with a few conservative friends, being trail runners they love the national parks and he’s cutting them right back. That alone is why they’d not vote for him. There’s few sectors he’s not his hard.
There’s no wall, DACA will get re-approved and that will infuriate his base, there’s still no jobs for miners and he hasn’t brought back the good jobs he said he would.
He’s openly racist as his background suggested and employing the likes of Steven Miller has not helped that. The only black person in his inner circle finally quit after she could no longer defend him. The ‘good people on both sides’ statement after Charlottesville lost him and black vote.
US politics is all about who motivates people to vote, we just saw in Alabama an historically strong turnout of black voters for a fairly normal uninspiring white candidate. Don’t let the Moore allegations blind you to what happened there, my cat would have won that senate seat most years. He has nine months to get things done before hopefully the house and the senate swing back left and he’ll be left ranting on twitter.
I think he will resign rather than lose an election, especially to a black woman.January 10, 2018 at 1:09 pm #728
@rob I hope you’re right, sounds like you are much closer to the ground than most people on here (me included) so perhaps reelection is unlikely.
Although most other presidents seem to get a second term, weight of inertia being with the incumbent etc. and even George W managed two.
Do the democrats have anyone suitable to run against him? And all those angry people who voted the first time will still be angry with the ‘establishment’ the next time round. Perhaps that’s why Oprah is suddenly being mentioned as potential candidate (democrats own populist?)
I guess, as much as anything it hinges on the economy (the chances of a downturn before 2020?), war (conflict with Iran or god forbid North Korea), and control of the senate. His health (mental or physical) could be an issue too as others have said.
I hope he doesn’t, but Im inclined to think he will.January 10, 2018 at 1:11 pm #729
Ronald Reagan was widely believed to have suffered from the early stages of dementia during his second term, but it was never (officially) spotted.
Trump has actually compared himself to Reagan saying that he, like Reagan, is having to deal with “fake news” that he has the early signs of dementia.
Drawing that comparison certainly seems like something less than genius on Trump’s part, given how widely it is believed that Reagan was showing early signs of dementia during his second term and that he was indeed diagnosed with Alzheimer’s after leaving office.January 10, 2018 at 5:07 pm #789
His IQ is rapidly falling. Never mind the recent call for a proper medical by concerned psychiatrists, his strikingly reduced ability to form complex, grammatically correct sentences containing more complicated words than “bigly” has been noted before. Unfortunately, such speech problems often reflect an underlying degenerative condition, especially when they get worse over time.
There are quite a few links on the web that contrast interviews from the 1990s and 2010s, and quantitative analyses of his speech patterns over time clearly prove that point. This becomes especially clear when contrasted with the same analysis for Reagan (who was similarly suspected to suffer from dementia while in office, which was subsequently confirmed) but not Bush senior or another president I cannot recall (Carter?).
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